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Do you think before you write?
Posted By: My BCS Trophy is Bigger Than Yours 5/12/2010To this "utes stink" character, where did I get all cocky? Where was I running my mouth? I was stating facts. BYU choked against FSU, FSU wasn’t the better team, and it was in Provo- I classify that as a choke. And congratulations, you are winning the duel this year. Are you going to hang your hat on that two years from now when the Duel doesn’t exist because Utah is in the PAC-10 while you are stuck in the MWC? If you go back through all my posts, I have argued points and statements, each fan base will argue their teams are better, I don’t get into that. This year, you guys are better; next year could be a different story. So I don’t waste my time. To the other guy, GOLF IS NOT A DIRECT HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPETITION! That is why golf is not part of the duel. Utah participates in those other sports aside from M-Vball; they are just not included for reasons stated here before. Cougarinboston, come back, please, at least your points are thought out.
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Golf
Posted By: utes are chicken 5/12/2010Isn't it funny that they have announced the Third Annual Deseret First Duel Cup Golf Tournament between BYU and Utah when the Utes won't compete for points in the Deseret Duel in golf. Maybe it's because BYU has always been so much better in golf. In any case, the duel would be more exciting if the utes participated in more sports (like golf, track & field, men's volleyball, etc., etc.).
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Hey Airhead Ute Fan U Stink
Posted By: utes stink 5/12/2010Hey moron the score is 44 to 15.5! So shut your yap.
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No Choke Against U
Posted By: utes stink 5/12/2010U must not be very good because we didn't choke against U. Oh by the way before you get all cocky look at the deseret duel scoreboard BCS dude.
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Bull Crap Series?
Posted By: My BCS Trophy is Bigger Than Yours 5/11/2010Why do you all refer to the BCS as the Bull Crap Series? I mean, I hate the BCS as much as the next guy but how does that discount what Utah did...TWICE(which, in reference to the BYU fan earlier-is not luck, if something happens once, that is luck, like, oh I don't know-BYU's national title, but I digress)? BYU fans were all about the BCS last year, you remember? Before you guys choked against FSU. You all thought you had a chance at the NC game. So, I just don't understand why YOU call it the Bull Crap Series. The ONE time you went undefeated, you got a NC. Unless you are standing up for teams that don't choke and finish undefeated, you should love the BCS because it is the only reason BYU is the last "mid-major" to win a national title. Oh, and I love the BYU fans pretending to be U fans and misspelling things, REAL mature…
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GO UTS
Posted By: wuuu 5/11/2010GO Jimnastics!
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BULL CRAP SERIES
Posted By: UTES STINK 5/11/2010Congrats on the B.C.S trophies Utah!
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Bull Crap Series
Posted By: UTES STINK 5/11/2010Congratulations on the BCS trophy Utah!
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Same Question
Posted By: My BCS Trophy is Bigger Than Yours 5/10/2010Cougarinboston, this is the same question that has been covered here before. BYU fans can say all they want that Chris Hill refused to participate in the Duel unless Gymnastics, which Utah is a perennial power in, was included and other sports that BYU is a power in (track, CC, golf) were omitted. But the fact is they cannot be included because it is not a direct head-to-head competition. There are other teams in the meets/invitational that the two schools compete in. And, I ask again, if these were included, how would you score a victory? What if Utah had individuals win all the races but BYU had #'s 2-6 and won the team competition? Or, neither team won any race and BYU finished 7th in the meet and Utah 8th. Should BYU win that Duel competition because they finished one spot ahead of Utah? It is a victory for not finishing last? That is where the direct head-to-head comes in to play, because that first scenario could happen in gymnastics but there are only the two teams in that competition. This question/argument that BYU fans have gets old after a while. All the sports that both teams participate in, that are NCAA sanctioned and are BYU v. UTAH only are included in this duel series.
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Other Years
Posted By: cougarinboston 5/10/2010BYU won the Duel in the inaugural year, 2007, with a final score of 34-30. Utah won in 2008, 39.5-24.5. This is the third year, and BYU has set a scoring record, with 44 points so far. They can extend the mark by 1.5 points if they win in softball this weekend. No doubt, this is a good old fashioned fanny kicking. My question is, when will the DD start to cover ALL of the D1 sports the 2 teams compete in (where is golf and Womens CC and track and field)?
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TOO CLOSE
Posted By: utes stink 5/5/2010This deseret duel is just too close!
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nothing to talk about u of u
Posted By: mosesbyu 5/4/2010listen up utah fans youve got nothing to talk about, this is the biggest beat down ever you guys just keep your mouths shut please
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Saved
Posted By: NW Cougar 5/1/2010In the student athlete building on campus at the Y, they have a plaque set up that indicates the winner of each year's duel, along with the score from that year. Its in the trophy room, not far from Ty's Heisman and Young's old Super Bowl MVP trophy and the Football National Championship Trophy and Weir's bag from the Masters a few years ago and all the men's Volleyball National Championship trophies. I think all the Lacrosse, Rugby, XC, Track, Golf, and Basketball Nat Champ trophies are on the second floor. I'm not sure if the U has a trophy room/ museum thing but, if they do, they most likely have a matching plaque next to their school's BCS bowl trophies and Gymnastics awards and such.
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Save The Scores
Posted By: RandO 4/28/2010Website memory is cheap. Can't you store the history of the prior year's scores? Sadly - I feel compelled to look at sports statistics to satisfy my compulsions.
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Ute men lose again
Posted By: provo onlooker 4/25/2010Well, the ute baseball team did save the day by winning one of three against the cougars. Otherwise, the ute men would have only scored a single point all year in the duel.
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12 years in a row
Posted By: CougarinBoston 4/24/2010With BYU's dramatic, 2-out home run in the 9th today, they extended Utah's streak of not winning the season series to 12 consecutive year. That's right, Utah hasn't won the season series since 1998. But then, Utah typically stinks at baseball....just like most of their sports.
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Posted By: imtrueblue 4/24/2010I'm on the Cougars side, for the win... but why does there have to be a duel and/or rivalry? :|||
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QB time
Posted By: Question 4/21/2010Who will be BYU's quarter back. Nelson looked pretty good as a freshman playing at Utah state. Heaps is the top recruit in the Nation. If Heaps doesn't get the job will he Stay in the so called quarter back factory? Cougar fans who will get the shot?
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Why not compare fanbases?
Posted By: cougarinboston 4/19/2010Nobody said that BYU's massive fanbase isn't due to it's affiliation with the LDS Church. It is. Same way ND's affiliation with the Catholic Church has much to do with its massive following. That is BYU. Without it, it would be just like the U. A pretty good state school in a relatively unpopulous western state, with a small following and little media draw. And, about your 1947 NIT title: you are correct. That is a legitimate National Championship. It was won in the premier tournament of its day, in the largest media market, just like BYU's 1951 NIT Championship. Both schools have one legit. basketball NC.
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utes can't complrain
Posted By: I chose the right team 4/17/2010admit it, the utes aren't that great. you were real lucky to make it to a bull crap series game.
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utes aren't great
Posted By: utes=CRAP 4/17/2010We all know BCS stands for BULL CRAP series. utah was real luck, and no one can deny it!
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you utah fans can't complain
Posted By: A Real, True Fan 4/17/2010You ute fans are big babies. You know you really SUCK. There is a reason we have more fans. GO COUGARS!!!
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hi
Posted By: if 4/17/2010hi
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Another Fan Base Stat...
Posted By: My BCS Trophy is Bigger Than Yours 4/14/2010Congrats, BYU has more fans. Again, it is skewed. You show me a poll of ALL BYU fans, especially the out of Utah ones that shows their religion! That is why BYU has such a nationwide fan base, you could even make a case BYU has more fans across the country than a REAL big time team like USC. You can argue your stats and historical records all you want but don't bring up stadium size/capacity, school revenue, admission requirements and fan base as your points, the two schools cannot be compared on a level playing field other than sports. As for your Utah Basketball championship argument you were SO close to being correct. Utah lost to Kentucky in the NIT tourney and won the NCAA tourney after Arkansas' team had a car crash. And, in this "National Championship Argument" if we use your reasoning that NIT was the real NC, Utah won a NC in 1947.
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BYU just has WAYYY more fans
Posted By: cougarinboston 4/14/2010Check out the past TV ratings. Utah has a portion of the fans in a relatively unpopulous (less than 3 million) state, while BYU has, not only a huge chunk of the fans in Utah, but hundreds of thousands of fans spread out over the rest of the country. Announcers often mistake the fact that BYU travels well with the more correct fact that the BYU fans already live there, e.g. UCLA in 2007, when 40k BYU fans showed up at the Rose Bowl, or Washington in 2008, when 35k BYU fans crowded Husky Stadium. Sure, a few may have traveled, but most of them lived there. Bottom line: BYU just has far more fans. Utah has a hard time selling out RE stadium with a measley 45k seat capacity, while BYU sells out LES with a 65k seat capacity.
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